Wilf Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Morning all.. Hope you well... I'm looking to get in to low and slow and found this forum last night and there is some great info on here.. I fund this forum due to looking at the below smoker. https://www.gardengiftshop.co.uk/bbq-smokers/premium-charcoal-bbq-smoker-grill But as I do more digging I have come across this one I like also http://www.homeandgardencentre.co.uk/index.php/landmann-kentucky-smoker.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtMvlBRDmARIsAEoQ8zT5kF867ZCl2JmsJVkxVXqfBWqssGmf9gIz594PZodsuV9kITLtkJAaAhuWEALw_wcB I don't like to purchase with out doing plenty of digging first.. So my question to the pros is what would be a good move. I have read plenty of reviews on both but would like to know from here what would be the better buy.. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 These are two very different animals. Landmann Callow The Landmann, you will have to do some modifications and sealing gaps when building. The Callow, @Wade has worked in conjunction (unpaid) to develop the Callow to what it is today. For me as a beginner, I would opt for the Callow, the Landmann is the ‘Traditional Smoker’ But needs some mastering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Yes I have read the thread that wade has on the callow and its very comprehensive and it is the one I'm swaying to as I all ready have a stand alone bbq. I was just unsure if it would be an idea to upgrade to the joint option. But as I say the callow for me is looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 I've been doing a bit more reading on here about the callow and @Wade you suggest getting some stove rope to help with the door.. As a noob is this what I should be looking at? https://www.gardengiftshop.co.uk/barbecues/bbq-accessories/1m-glass-fibre-thermal-tape 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Wilf hi & welcome. I was a newbie this time last year, Smokin is spot on about the Landmann, you will need time to master it. I bought one as my 2nd bbq, you will need to work on it, there's a very good thread on here about it......will see if I can find it later for you. If I were you I would go for the Callow, I started off with a Brinkman smoker which is the same type as the Callow. I used it only the other weekend instead of the big Weber and fell in love with it again. She held the temp spot on with no hassle at all, she's big enough to do ribs, brisket, and as a stand-alone smoker for fish, cheese whatever else you fancy. Just my 2 cants Mate. Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wilf said: I've been doing a bit more reading on here about the callow and @Wade you suggest getting some stove rope to help with the door.. As a noob is this what I should be looking at? https://www.gardengiftshop.co.uk/barbecues/bbq-accessories/1m-glass-fibre-thermal-tape This is what I used on my Landmann......https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stove-Thermal-Tape-Black-Adhesive/dp/B0049NEE5Q/ref=sr_1_22?crid=AUYPPMI6VVX0&keywords=stove+rope+10mm&qid=1555245772&s=gateway&sprefix=stove+rope%2Caps%2C363&sr=8-22 Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Found that thread, well worth a read...https://www.woodsmokeforum.uk/topic/596-landmann-kentucky-offset-smoker/?tab=comments#comment-2608 Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, Wilf said: . As a noob is this what I should be looking at? https://www.gardengiftshop.co.uk/barbecues/bbq-accessories/1m-glass-fibre-thermal-tape Yes you can buy it from most Wood Stove shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Thanks for all this you've been a big help I'll get a callow ordered today.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 OK now I realy am starting to regret even thinking about getting in to this hahaha.. I have started to look at the pro q.. For the extra cash is it worth it when put up against the callow? https://www.souschef.co.uk/products/proq-frontier-smoker?variant=16898820407354&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwof6257N4AIVgvdRCh2rZwatEAkYASABEgJLu_D_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Now you've hit the nail on the head......how much do you want to spend???? The Callow around the £100/£110 price range.....or the Pro Q at £250???? only you can make that call. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotv Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Hi Wilf and welcome to the forum. I have owned a Proq for a couple of years and it has served me well. From the picture an description this is the 2018 model and for that price it is a very good buy. The Callow is very similar in design, but as per the price. The Proq has a better build and materials and e.g. I have had no need for stove rope or any mods to mine since I bought it. You can comfortably cook 8 racks of ribs (with rib racks) or 4 x 2-3kg pork shoulders/briskets Also the Proq has options that allow you to add to it, if you feel the need, like expander grills, plancha, and you can buy an extra stacker if you need even more capacity in the future. Also with the 2018 model you can add the FlipnGrate for cooking fish, steaks an burgers over the charcoal. Although I haven't got this. It maintain 225F quite easily with a full bowl of water, a basketful of Quality Lumpwood usually lasts 5-7 hours before needing topping up. Proq do a cold smoke generator that works well with the frontier, if you wanted to cold smoke cheese, salmon or your own bacon. Although I am sure it would work just as well with the Callow. I certainly wouldn't trust the built in thermometer on my proq (the 2018 maybe better)? But I would invest in a digital thermometer with meat and heat probes for accuracy and peace of mind. So another expense whether you buy the Callow or ProQ, but you can pick a decent one up for £30-40 All it requires assembly wise is screwing the 3 legs on and handle and your are good to go. Edited April 15, 2019 by sotv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Thanks for that I do like the look for the pro Q. I'm a big believer in if I'm going to get somthing I'd rather spend a bit mire on somthing that's going to last rather than having to change/upgrade at a later date. Just on a side note what sort of thermometer would you recommend? Sorry for all the questions and I realy appreciate the advice. Once I have somthing in my head I have to find out as much as I can lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Some thing like Inkbird 4 probe ones are good. Wait for a discount code to be posted @Inkbird post offers up frequently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Enjoy the journey and welccme.. I use weber and it is fine but I think the pro q is an excellent option. It is all a questi9n of what style you want. Like a grill has airfllow control or height control. Options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice But Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Smokin Monkey said: Some thing like Inkbird 4 probe ones are good. Wait for a discount code to be posted @Inkbird post offers up frequently. Have a look on the Counrty wood smoke faceache selling page as Amy Qi does the discounts. As Smokin Monkey says 4 probe is great and with discount £35 ish.... love mine. Edited April 15, 2019 by Nice But 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nice But said: Have a look on the Counrty wood smoke faceache selling page as Amy Qi does the discounts. As Smokin Monkey says 4 probe is great and with discount £35 ish.... love mine. She also post them on her, under @Inkbird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice But Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Smokin Monkey said: She also post them on her, under @Inkbird. Sorry SM didn't know she was on here too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 I think I'm gonna go for this one.. Its the same pro q but as a starter set up.. For the extra it looks like a good deal https://www.souschef.co.uk/products/the-everything-hot-smoking-kit?variant=16896855310394 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 ......Welcome to the club....may the BBQ gods smile down on you.. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice But Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 10% discount on Inkbird from Amazon ATM @Wilf click the link below to go to their site.... if you can see it on your phone, not there on my laptop...🙄 Edited April 15, 2019 by Nice But 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nice But said: 10% discount on Inkbird from Amazon ATM @Wilf click the link below to go to their site.... if you can see it on your phone, not there on my laptop...🙄 Fantastic thank you.. Can't see the link though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice But Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wilf said: Fantastic thank you.. Can't see the link though try this one.... code below link @Wilf https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076QBJVWX?fbclid=IwAR0ddGMhJiZJs3QwmVD2yhTWWkUISfxldQ8S5qXFmRPAnopnyWSbyVsb6cw XPVDO769 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 That's everything ordered and will be here tomorrow and looking at the weather its gonna be a good weekend.... So who wants to come and cook for me and show me how its done... ???? 😂 thank you all you have been a great help. Wilf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 First off, don’t get ahead of yourself. 3/4 fill the charcoal basket, then add 1 chimney of hot coals to the centre. Have top and bottom vents open, gradually close the bottom vent until just fit a pencil in the gap. Aim for 120’C and see if you can keep it constant. Remember it’s easier to raise the temperature that drop it. Start off cooking a Chicken to give you a feel of the Smoker. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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