Icefever Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 As the title says I've just started a 2 gall Stilton and I'm using the sous vide .... When you think about it, you need a liquid to sit at a certain temp for a set time what better than a Wancle???? Photos to follow....... Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 I get to have 90 mins sit down and have a cuppa now....waiting on the rennet to do its job before I move on to the next stage... a couple of photos as promised. Pot sat in the sous vide plastic box...milk hit 30c in around 20/25 mins. I thought why the wand is holding at 30c I just check the milk thermo in the water bath just out of curiosity, we all know how accurate these dial thermos are?? it reads 32c.. 🤣 You can just see the speck of Roquefort blue that's has been added. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 You've certainly hit the ground running with the cheese making. You should have quite a stock soon. How long do you need to store stilton for before you can eat it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 The reason I went for a Stilton is the maturing time is only around 3 months, plus we love our blue cheeses. Another fact is you don't need a full press, any 4kg weight will do. The curds are wrapped in cloth and placed between 2 chopping boards with a 4kg weight for 12 hours. After that, the curds are milled & salted packed in a form/mould and left for 4 days...if all goes to plan we should be able to taste around Feb. Ice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 We're expecting "The Icefever Cheese Stall" at Woodsmoke 19. 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 That's a bloody good idea Adman.... 2 hours ago, Adman said: We're expecting "The Icefever Cheese Stall" at Woodsmoke 19. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 “Gromit, that's it! Cheese! We'll go somewhere where there's cheese!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Woodsmoke 20??? will that be on the Moon then??? that's where Wallace & Gromit went to..... Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Following with interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 What temp do you keep it at to mature mate? In the dark too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Justin said: What temp do you keep it at to mature mate? In the dark too? Room temp, no need for dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 OK easy peasy then or maybe not.I imagine you can pick any number of molds if not wrapped properly? Semi permeable bag might help? Hmm might have to try this. You said you are making 2 gallon Stilton, is that the amount of milk you started with? If so, what weight roughly does it end up being? If not then how much milk did you start with. How much rennet did you add, is their a ratio to amount of milk? And you stated the mold with Rocquetfort, how much to ratio of milk, is their a ratio or guesstimate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 9:03 AM, Justin said: OK easy peasy then or maybe not.I imagine you can pick any number of molds if not wrapped properly? Semi permeable bag might help? Hmm might have to try this. You said you are making 2 gallon Stilton, is that the amount of milk you started with? If so, what weight roughly does it end up being? If not then how much milk did you start with. How much rennet did you add, is their a ratio to amount of milk? And you stated the mold with Rocquetfort, how much to ratio of milk, is their a ratio or guesstimate? Sorry mate don't know how I missed this post. The blue mould is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_roqueforti It's a strong mould and no other mould will survive alongside it, as for wrapping, not for the days that it's drying out at room temp. Wrap it and mould will not grow well as it needs oxygen just like us, it also gives off C02. I have to use a skewer later today to make holes so that the mould can grow towards the centre of the cheese. A total of 2 galls.... full fat, 500ml of single cream...finished up with a 1.190 kg wheel. If you intend to have a go at it you will need this. https://www.gnltd.co.uk/goat-nutrition/cheese-making-products/cheese-making-cultures/mesophilic-type-ii-cheese-culture-for-cheese-making.html Also half a teaspoon of rennet mixed in 60ml of bottled water...(NOT FROM THE TAP) This is the video I used mate well worth a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hX-Y_Iv9Cc Ice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Couple of photos over the last 48 hrs..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 A good looking cheese. It looks as if it is going to be quite a strong one from the amount of mould. Did you mix the mould in with the curds or did you use an inoculation needle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Yes impressive. If we can work out the ratios to be costient across a range of weights (2 gallons to 500ml etc) it will be easier to make something smaller too. That is a lot of stilton. Once finished do you vac and wrap it in to segments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Wade said: A good looking cheese. It looks as if it is going to be quite a strong one from the amount of mould. Did you mix the mould in with the curds or did you use an inoculation needle? This recipe calls for the blue to be added at the start, straight into the milk leave for a couple of mins then stir as you warm the milk. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I watched video. I notice his is smaller than yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, Justin said: Yes impressive. If we can work out the ratios to be costient across a range of weights (2 gallons to 500ml etc) it will be easier to make something smaller too. That is a lot of stilton. Once finished do you vac and wrap it in to segments? I would say that you could half the recipe without any problem. There seems to be a few ways of wrapping cheese, wax, cheese paper, greaseproof paper, butchers paper...etc etc. One guy wraps in one layer wax paper, followed by foil....I'm taking more interest in what the cheeses in the better supermarkets are wrapped in. That's because he is using a hoop....a tube for his Stilton...I only have the two moulds so far, I've ordered a Stilton hoop yesterday ready for my next go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I see. Ok. Thx. 1gallon milk 250ml cream and half everything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Yup...quarter teaspoon rennet along with all the other stuff, should work ok. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Looking good, unfortunately it’s one of the Cheeses I do not like the taste of, the wife would eat all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Might make a half size of yours. Bacon cheese and salmon on the mo at the mo...fridge is filling up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Update, she's now 2 weeks old . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Monkey Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Looks like it’s going to be a Strong Flavour! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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