Thanks - will check them out - quite like the spec of the Prestige Pros. I've been lurking on US BBQ forums and some clever guy went to look at Summits with a magnet and was disappointed for the money hardly any of the Weber was 304 Stainless Steel! I've open to buying used - passed on two Summits as I was quite shocked at how rusted out the cabinets were and how much people were still charging for them! These had both been well looked after and professionally cleaned but looked like like they needed new cabinet parts soon... Doesn't look cheap to source either! Saw a used Whistler and the 304 steel looked flawless! Cleaned up so well!