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Chargriller Outlaw or Landmann Kentucky offset smoker?

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Completely new to posting on the forum, but have been lurking around for some time. I want to get into offset smoking, I think that it's a great way to learn. Someone said if you can master offsets, you will be able to smoke on anything.

I can get either Char-Griller Outlaw(with Firebox) or the Landmann Kentucky for a very good price. The Char-Griller is approx. £70 more expensive so my question is, is it worth the extra spend in terms of built quality, metal thickness etc?

I know they're very much starter smokers and will have to do some modifications to either one of them but for pure out-of-the-box quality, which one would you recommend?

Thanks a lot!

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Once again Zurek, welcome to the Forum. Not sure on the build quality of either smoker as I do not own one.

You could do a search on the forum, I know there are post about offsets and what mods have been done to them.

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6 hours ago, zurek said:

I know they're very much starter smokers and will have to do some modifications to either one of them

Zurek hi........I know of the Char griller, but never used one. On the other hand I do own a Landmann.  Would I buy one now I've used one??? no....but that's because I find a bullit smoker more my style.

As you already know of some of the mods that you may have to do, your half way there....I didn't.. 😂

 

Ice.

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On 3/22/2020 at 6:56 PM, Icefever said:

Zurek hi........I know of the Char griller, but never used one. On the other hand I do own a Landmann.  Would I buy one now I've used one??? no....but that's because I find a bullit smoker more my style.

As you already know of some of the mods that you may have to do, your half way there....I didn't.. 😂

 

Ice.

Thanks a mil. I went with the Chargriller. Heavy bastard! I will be setting it up tomorrow, both heat silicone and stove tape arrived from Amazon already. I think I have enough theoretical knowledge to get started, we'll see what curve balls will reality throw at me 😂

Also, I'm having trouble finding proper smoking wood at the moment, for obvious reasons and was wondering if  Kiln Dried Hardwood logs from Homebase be suitable for smoking. I have no idea what wood is it, looks Birchy to me, but no clue😂

Thanks again

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Never used logs from Homebase, or anywhere other than wood from bbq stores.  You never know what wood is in the H/base ones, could add a nasty taste to your food??

 

Ice.

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Congrats on your purchase. Look forward to seeing the results of some of your cooks in the future. 

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Ok so a good few curve balls alright! Applied silicone and stove tape as I was building so joints are pretty sealed up. Gap at the back of the chamber is too big for tape to seal, will have to figure something out, it leaks like crazy.

Main problem - runs really hot

First burn I got excited and dunked a full chimney of briquettes followed by a half split oak log. The temp SKYROCKETED to 280c so clearly too much fuel. 

Today I started it off with half chimney and a fist size chunk cut from the log. Even with that the temp seems to go above 140c and have to keep adding same sized chunks every 15mins. I can bring it down to 120 ish but only for short amount of time.

What am I doing wrong? Can't be going this hot with just a tiny bit of wood!? Seen people use big logs on similar sized offsets?!

Thanks!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Smokin Monkey said:

I have never used on of these.

A picture of what’s in the fire box and temperature might help people figure this out.

Thanks, will take a pic tomorrow. Didn't change anything inside, no baffle plates or any modifications.

9 minutes ago, Diggerg said:

Personally I wouldn't rely on the gauge fitted in the lid either. Either a good quality dial gauge or a digital

So I knew before buying that the thermometer is rubbish, serves more as a decoration. Got a Thermopro TP17 with a grill clip and I go by this.

Just for some reason I assumed I'm gonna have the opposite problem in the beginning, not enough heat. Wasn't expecting too much to be the case.

Thanks both!

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17 hours ago, Smokin Monkey said:

I have never used on of these.

A picture of what’s in the fire box and temperature might help people figure this out.

So here's a few pics of the Firebox and main chamber.

The charcoal rack in the main part is movable up and down, so I had an idea to turn it upside down and hang just above the inlet from fire box, suppose to spread heat more evenly and hopefully run a bit cooler so I can put larger wood chunks and not worry about going too hot. Haven't tested it yet though.

What you guys think?

4 hours ago, Icefever said:

Running an offset in an art, there is a YT video about it, if I can find it I'll post.

 

Take a look at these.............. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Running+an+offset+smoker

 

Ice.

I literally have 99% of those videos saved and watched. They're extremely helpful! Most though deal with what to do if your temp is not high enough, I must be the only one with the opposite problem 🤦‍♂️

The amount of fuel is defo going to make the difference, and will do 1 small chunk at a time, just wanted to get to a place where I can add a big enough log and manage temps then with the vents.

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