Icefever Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I've got to take my last lot of bacon out from the curing bags this morning, rinse and let it dry until the weekend that's when I'm going to cold smoke maybe two of the three slabs. For my next batch, I'm having a go at Suffolk Black bacon, this has intrigued me for a few years now, never had it, so not sure what to expect?. Found this recipe below so we're off to town later so I'm going to get a small piece of belly pork and give it a try. 1 kg Pork belly 30g Celery Salt 3g (1 1/2 tsp) black peppercorns 5g (2 tsp) fennel seed 3g (1 tsp) coriander seed 3.5g (1/2tsp) Prague powder #1 2tbsp black treacle 150ml dark beer. Porter, Stout, Mild or something similar...( I'm going to use Guinness ) Roll your fennel seeds, coriander seeds and peppercorns, just crush them up enough you don’t want to grind them too fine. Take 2 tbsp of black treacle and smear it over the meat, place in a bag and cover the pork with the spices, rub all over. (not sure how to attack this, the belly is going to be covered with treacle, getting that into a vac bag is going to be crazy. Do like I do now place belly in bag add treacle and toss the bag about?? then throw in the spices? watch this space) Take your beer and pour it into the bag. Then normal curing time, don't think I'll go for 14 days like with the loin I do.....more like a week? Ice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Strange things happen at times, makes one think. 🤔 I posted this thread around 0600 this morning, I'm on a facebook page for bacon curing and I just popped in and found this....https://www.facebook.com/groups/546778265661621/?fref=nf Richard Anderson is doing almost the same recipe...posted 33 mins ago....even using Guinness. I hope he lets me know how it goes on?? 😎 Ice. Edited February 13, 2020 by Icefever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Icefever said: I've got to take my last lot of bacon out from the curing bags this morning, rinse and let it dry until the weekend that's when I'm going to cold smoke maybe two of the three slabs. For my next batch, I'm having a go at Suffolk Black bacon, this has intrigued me for a few years now, never had it, so not sure what to expect?. Found this recipe below so we're off to town later so I'm going to get a small piece of belly pork and give it a try. 1 kg Pork belly 30g Celery Salt 3g (1 1/2 tsp) black peppercorns 5g (2 tsp) fennel seed 3g (1 tsp) coriander seed 3.5g (1/2tsp) Prague powder #1 2tbsp black treacle 150ml dark beer. Porter, Stout, Mild or something similar...( I'm going to use Guinness ) Roll your fennel seeds, coriander seeds and peppercorns, just crush them up enough you don’t want to grind them too fine. Take 2 tbsp of black treacle and smear it over the meat, place in a bag and cover the pork with the spices, rub all over. (not sure how to attack this, the belly is going to be covered with treacle, getting that into a vac bag is going to be crazy. Do like I do now place belly in bag add treacle and toss the bag about?? then throw in the spices? watch this space) Take your beer and pour it into the bag. Then normal curing time, don't think I'll go for 14 days like with the loin I do.....more like a week? Ice. Sounds fantastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Just finished my first go at black bacon, it's a sticky job but someone has to do it. ...... Photo's later on. Ice. Edited March 4, 2020 by Icefever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just uploaded a short (4min) video of making the bacon, if you find the time take a look and let me know what you think...it's all new to me..😁 Ice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Well done mate, thanks, Not a fan of black bacon but I can appreciate the method. If you do not mind some observations, at the start you showed salt and cure, when you applied it you called it spice. Was somethign missing when descirbing the ingreidients? at start? technique demostrated very well, nice mate music nice tune but a but a bit too dominant so ditch or tone down the volume a little? Bag air desplacement, water discplacement method is simples and cheap and is more efficient if it is important? Maybe some things to consider on next video, really good all the same well done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Thank you Justin...the salt & Prague #1 are added to the spices that are crused in the bag, that way it mix's in better. Music is very low on my edit, I thought it would be ok. It's getting to know all the in's and out's of the video editor. I have used the water method, I would normally vac-pac but with that much beer it's a no go. When I watch any videos I don't like when there's long dead sections, I do like a gentle bit of music in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotv Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Well done, did black bacon once and you are a lot less messier than I was, with the making of it. The Black Treacle got everywhere 😀 Edited March 5, 2020 by sotv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Nice work mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, sotv said: you are a lot less messier than I was You didn't see the video cuttings on the floor mate. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Icefever said: Just uploaded a short (4min) video of making the bacon, if you find the time take a look and let me know what you think...it's all new to me..😁 Ice. Brilliant, can't wait for the next issue, I will definitely do this when I get through my last home made batch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just uploaded part 2 of this cure......when we tasted the small bit we fried we were both blown away with it. We're off to Booker this afternoon I want a pork loin for a 2nd go at Black bacon. Ice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Looks amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Will you cold smoke it ice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Mick said: Will you cold smoke it ice? Not on this first slab of belly Mick, got a pork loin yesterday and I always cut it into 3 slabs, so will do one out of the next lot. Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 20 hours ago, Icefever said: Just uploaded part 2 of this cure......when we tasted the small bit we fried we were both blown away with it. We're off to Booker this afternoon I want a pork loin for a 2nd go at Black bacon. Ice. Very good mate, nice video. good sound levels too on the headphones that I am using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I will be doing this soon definitely, only thing is for my first try I used Wade's kit, I am a bit worried about the pink salt stuff when mixing my own, am I correct that it is number 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Mick said: I am a bit worried about the pink salt stuff when mixing my own, am I correct that it is number 1? Yes mate...not to be confused with the Himalayan pink salt that I use...which is just salt. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Ok I shall get some ordered Cheers ice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Mick said: Ok I shall get some ordered Cheers ice Do you use any of the curing calculators that are about??? Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I use Wade's spreadsheet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, Icefever said: Do you use any of the curing calculators that are about??? Ice. Not made from scratch just from Wade's pre mixed packet, just add sugar and what ever flavour, I will find the spreadsheet Justin mentions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 It is so easy, weigh the joint that you're going to cure, pop it in the calculator and it will give you the amounts of the main ingredients. Prague #1, salt (Koser or pink Himalayan ) whichever you prefer. I think of anything else as 2nd ingredients, pepper, sugar, herbs, spice's etc etc... ie..if the calculator says 28 grams of sugar but you want a little more or less it won't interfere with the curing method. Link to Wade's calculator.....https://www.woodsmokeforum.uk/topic/887-nitrite-cure-calculator/?tab=comments#comment-6588 Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 @Wade I've been curing bacon for a couple of years now and feel confident in what I do, but a question has been running through my noggin and I would like to answer it. I followed the recipe for black bacon, but..always a but....when one does a dry cure..(which is what I've always done) does adding a liquid, in this case, beer dilute the curing salts???. The pork belly feels firm, as it should, I will have to look back at the recipe at the amount of #1 against the weight of the belly...then we come back to adding 130ml of beer does that reduce its ability to do its job?? or is it just in suspension and works just the same???. Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just checked the curing calculator and for a 1kg of meat it says 2.4 grams #1......the recipe used 3.5 gams. Interesting, I wonder if the extra 0.9 grams was because of the liquid??? As Jonny 5 would say "Need more input" 😂 Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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