Justin Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Planning to do a rhubarb and ginger cider. Using Morrisons apple juice from concentrate 4 x 1l cartons from amazon pantry at 75p a litre. I have bought 20 litres. Rhubarb is Ocado 1kg frozen rhubard pieces. Ginger is fresh. Yeast is cider yeast powdered with sweetner. More to follow on brew day. Basically boil rhubarb ginger and sugar. Add to apple juice at 20 degs c and add yeast and cold tea. Ferment at 20-21 degs c Edited July 26, 2019 by Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Here are the ingredient so for the flavouring 200g sugar Put all in pan Started to add gentle heat but the of course the sugar melted and the rhubarb is still frozen in pan. I do not want the sugar to caramelise so taken off heat covered and leaving to defrost, Lesson learnt, let rhubarb defrost first. Edited May 5, 2020 by Justin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Now it has defrosted, I boiled down over over low heat once it started boiling gentle simmer until mush (25 mins) and then strained in muslin bag. Ended up with about a litre of syrup juice which is now cooling further in the fermenter fridge to 20 degs.c Apple juice due for delivery today which I will then also put in the same fridge to cool down. I will put it on to ferment tomorrow.Syrup tastes punchy ginger and rhubarb, sweet. looks good to flavour apple juice nicely and plenty sugar for the yeast. I am hopeful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Sounds great Justin, how much are you making and how long do you think it will take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 1L strong Tea pectolase and syrup in fv. The yeast with syrup and a bit of yeast nutrient.Added bit of gypsum and a whirlfloc tablet. Apple juice 20 l. It is full. Yeast added and now in fv 20 degs C in fermenter larder fridge. 11 days fermenting expected I think it will take off so might put on blow off set up... Og 1052! OMGCleaning and sanitised first Edited July 31, 2019 by Justin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 1/2 hours in and action on the brew starting already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Justin Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Going to put another batch on Saturday. Also will bottle oatmeal stout and I have another mild that I want to brew up to do as well. All good Anyone else tried to make this, you should if you like a cider, it is a delicious one to do and so easy to make as long as you have a fairly stable temp of 20 degrees c somewhere that you can put the fermenter. It will bubble away happily. No need to boil the apple juice, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Oatmeal stout sounds good, do you use an inkbird for your fridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Yes i gave a wifi one and a non wifi one controlling each of 2 larder fridges that i use as fermenter fridges. Do you have a set up Mick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Just started to get all the bits together, I have one fridge with an inkbird not done a brew yet, looking at fermeters Edited October 3, 2019 by Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 I use a fastfermenter. It is pretty good but valve can be bit tight. I also use a carboy . The difference is in the bottling. I do not do kegging but I will probably get there. The larder fridges are fantastic way of temp control. Tube heater at bottom then feed trough drilled hole in side of fridge to inkbird or stc controller and take probe through to stick to fermenter. The fridge plugs into cold plug on contriller. I have grainfather as i have small footprint in garage and it mashs and boils and cools. But there are cheaper options. Intrested to see what you do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Would have loved a grainfather, I got a similar one not sure how good it will be and whether going cheap will be ok it is called a brew monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Mick said: looking at fermeters I've got my thinking head on and I've got in mind an home-made fermenter, as I want to get back into brewing. 9 hours ago, Mick said: Would have loved a grainfather, I got a similar one not sure how good it will be and whether going cheap will be ok it is called a brew monk I had a BM, sold it a few years back ☹️ when I stopped brewing. Just taken a look at the Brew Monk, looks ok it seems to be in the correct price range for home brewing. I may try my luck with Rosie for this as my chrimbo prezie?? 😉 https://www.klarstein.co.uk/Home-appliances/Drinks-dispenser/Home-brewing/Maischfest-Mash-Kettle-Mash-Tank-5-Pieces-1500-3000W-25l-LCD-Touch-Stainless-Steel-25-Ltr.html They look ok will try to find some vids on them..... Ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just found this....looking good so far, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 It seems the Klarstein & Brew Monk are one of the same??? 🤔 Ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Looks good, decent enough piece of kit. Look at getting a false bottom screen (the robobrew one fits the grainfather as it will be much better filter. And i fitted cam lock to the mash circulation pipe and cooler coil to make things easier. Looks nice bit of kit, enjoy. The grain farther is Bluetooth so it is easy to upload recipes to it and it then configures reminders and automatic temp control. rather bling but it will not brew beer better than the brew monk? the only challenging bits i find are treating the water right and cleaning cleaning cleaning. Are you kegging or bottling. I am bottling but long distance plan is kegging and kegerator. I going to get a 8 pint growler first so i can share it easier than bottles at group meetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Icefever said: It seems the Klarstein & Brew Monk are one of the same??? 🤔 Ice. Yes I believe the same thing can be got under a few different names, better start with the hints for crimbo soon😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin said: Looks good, decent enough piece of kit. Look at getting a false bottom screen (the robobrew one fits the grainfather as it will be much better filter. And i fitted cam lock to the mash circulation pipe and cooler coil to make things easier. Looks nice bit of kit, enjoy. The grain farther is Bluetooth so it is easy to upload recipes to it and it then configures reminders and automatic temp control. rather bling but it will not brew beer better than the brew monk? the only challenging bits i find are treating the water right and cleaning cleaning cleaning. Are you kegging or bottling. I am bottling but long distance plan is kegging and kegerator. I going to get a 8 pint growler first so i can share it easier than bottles at group meetings I have been looking at water profiles and looks so confusing, mine is very hard so may have to sort that, I will probably get one keg and use a combination of that and bottles, the kegs look expensive though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Keg https://www.kegkingdom.co.uk/products/1x-cornelius-keg Water get some CRS (Carbonate reducing solution and alkalinity tablets (https://www.ukpoolstore.co.uk/acatalog/Lovibond_Calcium_Hardness___Total_Alkalinity_Tablets.html) where you count the number of tablets for the colour to change and that tells you the alkalinity, then calculate the amount of crs you need, I am in Essex hard water 280 mg/l alkalinity and use 0.87ml per litre of CRS to soften it down to 100 mg/l for brewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Justin said: Keg https://www.kegkingdom.co.uk/products/1x-cornelius-keg Water get some CRS (Carbonate reducing solution and alkalinity tablets (https://www.ukpoolstore.co.uk/acatalog/Lovibond_Calcium_Hardness___Total_Alkalinity_Tablets.html) where you count the number of tablets for the colour to change and that tells you the alkalinity, then calculate the amount of crs you need, I am in Essex hard water 280 mg/l alkalinity and use 0.87ml per litre of CRS to soften it down to 100 mg/l for brewing Keg looks good, presume I will then need gas and a regulator? I have a ro filter but need to look into that and maybe cut my tap water down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 ro is good too, yes you will need co2 for keg and tubing grey for gas, clear for beer. Do not forget to get cleaning set up, cold water feed, drain, and i use big black tub as sink and as I am in garage i feed hosepipe to a connector that goes through wall ( i drilled through wall and fitted it, then another hose pipe with a spray head, it is brilliant for rinsing things down and I can fit hose lock to the cooler circuit to, perfect, that way I can rinse things off quickly so grain does not stick and it is easier to clean then. equipment and supplies is easy find money and buy, but process is the key, think about each step and how you put what where really can make things a lot easier. load of youtube stuff on this mate. Some people stack three high, sparge kettle at top, mash and boiler in middle and fermenter below, then then go further and tube it all together so it is a closed loop system. Many options depending on the space you have. Not sure where you live Mick but you would be welcome to come see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mick said: Yes I believe the same thing can be got under a few different names, better start with the hints for crimbo soon😜 Your not going to believe this, Rosemary has told me to go ahead and order one.....don't know if I should or not.... Ice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlashster Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Icefever said: Your not going to believe this, Rosemary has told me to go ahead and order one.....don't know if I should or not.... DO IT. NOW. Done it yet? GET ON IT. Of course you should. Crikey, life is way too short. Phil. PS Tell Rosemary we all love her. Edited October 4, 2019 by Phlashster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icefever Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mick said: I have been looking at water profiles and looks so confusing, mine is very hard so may have to sort that, I will probably get one keg and use a combination of that and bottles, the kegs look expensive though Mick, take it slow mate, I've seen guys rush into all sorts of new kit.....in the early years I've bought stuff that I never used. I've still got a lot of kit, had the kegerator, at one time I ran up to 9 cornie kegs. Sold some, think I still have 3 or 4 left.....but I must admit trying to drink a cornie at a party or car event was a bit tricky. This time if I decide to start again I'll be looking at building a "Blichmann beer gun"....then it'll be....brew then bottle, I think, for me it'll be easier than all the fiddling with kegs and C02. I can then take a few bottles to family & friends and then bring them back, nice & easy. Ice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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